Self published books

Blackangel

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i don't get why people publish books with their own money even when a publishing company wants to publish them. i never got why they do that
 
Most reputed publishing companies don't publish books just like that. There's an intense scrutiny process for that.
 
MadaraUchiha said:
Most reputed publishing companies don't publish books just like that. There's an intense scrutiny process for that.

Is it very hard to get the permission to be published?
Who is even purchasing the actual books now man?
 
Angel said:
i don't get why people publish books with their own money even when a publishing company wants to publish them. i never got why they do that

Because it's easier if you don't want to get a lot of rejection letters from various publishing houses. If you self-publish your book, there's less time wasted, there's a lot less frustration with negotiating the contract and other details about the book etc.

Many publishing companies reject books at random, according to the mood that the guy who reads the manuscript is in that day. Example: the first Harry Potter book was rejected by several publishing companies before J. K. Rowling found a company that accepted her manuscript.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...-loads-rejections-before-harry-potter-success
 
MadaraUchiha said:
Most reputed publishing companies don't publish books just like that. There's an intense scrutiny process for that.
they wouldn't turn down a book of it's good and if they do then they are a bunch of idiots
Elvis said:
Because it's easier if you don't want to get a lot of rejection letters from various publishing houses. If you self-publish your book, there's less time wasted, there's a lot less frustration with negotiating the contract and other details about the book etc.

Many publishing companies reject books at random, according to the mood that the guy who reads the manuscript is in that day. Example: the first Harry Potter book was rejected by several publishing companies before J. K. Rowling found a company that accepted her manuscript.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...-loads-rejections-before-harry-potter-success

i read that too. i get that she was a novice at first but they shouldn't have judged a book like that
 
Angel said:
they wouldn't turn down a book of it's good and if they do then they are a bunch of idiots

i read that too. i get that she was a novice at first but they shouldn't have judged a book like that


Any Tom, Dick and Harry can get their book published if the companies do that. They have time-slots, they have to gauge the market, the season, the age-group, the competition, before they can decide everything. It's a monetary business after all.
I was going to include JK Rowling's example but Elvis already mentioned it.
 
Elvis said:
Because it's easier if you don't want to get a lot of rejection letters from various publishing houses. If you self-publish your book, there's less time wasted, there's a lot less frustration with negotiating the contract and other details about the book etc.

Many publishing companies reject books at random, according to the mood that the guy who reads the manuscript is in that day. Example: the first Harry Potter book was rejected by several publishing companies before J. K. Rowling found a company that accepted her manuscript.

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2...-loads-rejections-before-harry-potter-success
 
MadaraUchiha said:
Any Tom, Dick and Harry can get their book published if the companies do that. They have time-slots, they have to gauge the market, the season, the age-group, the competition, before they can decide everything. It's a monetary business after all.
I was going to include JK Rowling's example but Elvis already mentioned it.

i didn't think like that and publishing needs more money and not everyone could afford that. publishing companies can bare loses but not a person who gets to self publishing with their own money
 
Angel said:
i didn't think like that and publishing needs more money and not everyone could afford that. publishing companies can bare loses but not a person who gets to self publishing with their own money
 
[quote="Sindar" pid='110846' dateline='1540131574']

Self publishing usually just means getting the copy out on the internet for everyone to download, no? Printing actual hard copies in this case makes no sense I feel like. The costs and risks are one thing, but more importantly, who is going to arrange the sales? That is like an enormous amount of useless work.
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but how would they get anything in return for their work? if someone should make this a living, they need get some money back to get on with their life. i don't think internet download would be of any use.
 
Angel said:
but how would they get anything in return for their work? if someone should make this a living, they need get some money back to get on with their life. i don't think internet download would be of any use.
 
[quote="Sindar" pid='110850' dateline='1540132019']

You could make yourself a name, build a fanbase, get positive reviews, and then use all that when talking to a publisher about your contract. That at least makes sense. Also, working as a writer is not a good career in terms of money, and most people don't earn anything from it.
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i get that it's not a very good choice as a profession but its not entirely bad and the method you said would take an entire decade and if it doesn't add up, that write would be royally fuked.
 
Angel said:
i get that it's not a very good choice as a profession but its not entirely bad and the method you said would take an entire decade and if it doesn't add up, that write would be royally fuked.
 
[quote="Sindar" pid='110856' dateline='1540132650']

Exactly. Better find an office job, much safer. Some still wanna try though; you know, fame, money and all that. Some just have something to say and they can't help by get it out on the paper, even if they aren't going to earn anything from it. 

 Also lots (probably almost all) of famous writers start it as a side job, keeping another profession as a way to support themselves.
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i didn't think many people would start it as a side job first. it takes confidence and not anyone could get it, unless they have major hits and support.
 
Angel said:
i didn't think many people would start it as a side job first. it takes confidence and not anyone could get it, unless they have major hits and support.
 
[quote="Sindar" pid='110859' dateline='1540133174']

There are plenty of aspiring authors on the internet who are very willing to talk about their experience, I come across them without even trying. And you can find interviews with modern established writers, the ones who started in the digital age. It is pretty interesting to listen to them. 

Also everything is different between different countries.
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you really think i am trying to write one and get it published? for the life of me, i can't write sh#t but i know someone who is trying to be a writer. i broke up with him but at the time i posted this, i was under an impression that he is my man.
 
Angel said:
you really think i am trying to write one and get it published? for the life of me, i can't write sh#t but i know someone who is trying to be a writer. i broke up with him but at the time i posted this, i was under an impression that he is my man.

No, just assumed you are interested in this topic.
 
I would publish my own just for the fact I would have full control over it. Where as going through a publisher tends to leave you at their whim.
 
Demon_skeith said:
I would publish my own just for the fact I would have full control over it. Where as going through a publisher tends to leave you at their whim.

do you plan to spend that much money just to not deal with others whims?i can't understand that.
i value money more
 
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