Yep, it's that invasion arc. I watched the beginning part of that arc, and that's when I put it on-hold and moved on to another series. And, I agree with you regarding Heuco Mundo actually. It's just Ichigo running around there. But, I really liked Grimmjow and Ulquiorra. I can skip it, I guess. I watched like 70 episodes of Fairy Tail last year, and when I resumed it a few weeks back, I did the same thing as you said, I read the Wiki and brushed up on various story arcs preceding whatever I was gonna watch.
This is off-topic: have you watched Yuu Yuu Hakusho? Would you recommend it? I'm planning to watch all of the major shounen series slowly(like 5 episodes a week), and watch a 12 or 24 episode anime simultaneously, along with on-going anime. So, these shounen anime include DB, Bleach, Gin Tama, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
Yep, it's that invasion arc. I watched the beginning part of that arc, and that's when I put it on-hold and moved on to another series. And, I agree with you regarding Heuco Mundo actually. It's just Ichigo running around there. But, I really liked Grimmjow and Ulquiorra. I can skip it, I guess. I watched like 70 episodes of Fairy Tail last year, and when I resumed it a few weeks back, I did the same thing as you said, I read the Wiki and brushed up on various story arcs preceding whatever I was gonna watch.
This is off-topic: have you watched Yuu Yuu Hakusho? Would you recommend it? I'm planning to watch all of the major shounen series slowly(like 5 episodes a week), and watch a 12 or 24 episode anime simultaneously, along with on-going anime. So, these shounen anime include DB, Bleach, Gin Tama, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure.
I see xD I stopped watching at the beginning of the arc where Laxus appeared. The opening spoiled the whole plot of the arc, didn't feel like I need to see it anymore ^^' Gajeel trying to redeem himself was interesting, but it wasn't enough for me to keep watching. I don't remember how I felt about the narrator or Happy, probably didn't leave enough impression on me. Also I've been reading new chapters from time to time, somehow I always ended up seeing a fanservice fest : D
I like first few arc though. The one where some bad guys were reviving a monster frozen in magic ice, that was especially cool, mostly because of Gray's story line.
I'm sure the anime would be just as enjoyable ^^b
Thinking back to just the first season of JoJo's, I am surprised how much stuff fits in those 26 episodes. Let me know when you get to watching it, I'd like to know what you think about it =)
I'm not saying that I hate it. I actually kind of like the 4 main characters, Natsu, Gray, Lucy and Erza. That arc was kinda good, so was an arc that was focused on Erza's back-story. I kinda like Gajeel too, actually. He's pretty interesting.
The suprising thing for me was that I didn't really find a lot of fan-service in the anime, and that's probably due to the fact that I watched anime like Shokugeki no Souma simultaneously, which has a LOT of fan-service and it does the rare job of actually enhancing the anime. Though, in the current arc I'm watching, there's a lot. The arc which put me off the most was an arc called Edolas arc, in which they go to this parallel world called Edolas that's depleted of magic, and it has its own version of Natsu, Fairy Tail etc. The setup was interesting, but the arc became focused of Happy, and it sucked all of the seriousness and tension from it. It became really, really childish, even though, terrible things were happening.
That's something I always search before I watch an anime, whether it stays close to the source material, and whether it properly adapts it or rushes through. I experienced it with Shokugeki no Souma season 2. Season 1 adapted 60 chapters in 25 episodes, whereas season 2 adapted 60 chapters in 13 episodes. It apparently brushes through a lot of stuff that happens for the side characters, and mainly focuses on Souma and his food battles and his progression. I still liked it a lot, just not as much as season 1.
That's also why I'm putting off Assassination Classroom. The first season covers 70 chapters, and the second season covers 100 chapters, each 25 episodes. The consensus in reddit seems to be that the second season is really rushed. So, I'm not sure whether to watch the anime or read the manga. Have you read Assassination Classroom?
And, Jojo adapts the first four parts of the manga:
Phantom Blood: 44 chapters in 9 episodes
Battle Tendency: 69 chapters in 17 episodes
Stardust Crusaders: 152 chapters in 48 episodes
Diamond is Unbreakable: 174 chapters in 39 episodes
While I was surprised that each episode averages to about 3-4 chapters, i was looking at various posts in subreddits and all of them are of the opinion that the anime is faithful to the manga.
By the way, you are talking about the series that started in 2012, right? There was an OVA series that aired 6 episodes in 1993 and 7 episodes in 2001 covering the third part, Stardust Crusaders. I won't watch it, since the latest adaptation has a lot more episodes and is also received well.
I'm not saying that I hate it. I actually kind of like the 4 main characters, Natsu, Gray, Lucy and Erza. That arc was kinda good, so was an arc that was focused on Erza's back-story. I kinda like Gajeel too, actually. He's pretty interesting.
The suprising thing for me was that I didn't really find a lot of fan-service in the anime, and that's probably due to the fact that I watched anime like Shokugeki no Souma simultaneously, which has a LOT of fan-service and it does the rare job of actually enhancing the anime. Though, in the current arc I'm watching, there's a lot. The arc which put me off the most was an arc called Edolas arc, in which they go to this parallel world called Edolas that's depleted of magic, and it has its own version of Natsu, Fairy Tail etc. The setup was interesting, but the arc became focused of Happy, and it sucked all of the seriousness and tension from it. It became really, really childish, even though, terrible things were happening.
That's something I always search before I watch an anime, whether it stays close to the source material, and whether it properly adapts it or rushes through. I experienced it with Shokugeki no Souma season 2. Season 1 adapted 60 chapters in 25 episodes, whereas season 2 adapted 60 chapters in 13 episodes. It apparently brushes through a lot of stuff that happens for the side characters, and mainly focuses on Souma and his food battles and his progression. I still liked it a lot, just not as much as season 1.
That's also why I'm putting off Assassination Classroom. The first season covers 70 chapters, and the second season covers 100 chapters, each 25 episodes. The consensus in reddit seems to be that the second season is really rushed. So, I'm not sure whether to watch the anime or read the manga. Have you read Assassination Classroom?
And, Jojo adapts the first four parts of the manga:
Phantom Blood: 44 chapters in 9 episodes
Battle Tendency: 69 chapters in 17 episodes
Stardust Crusaders: 152 chapters in 48 episodes
Diamond is Unbreakable: 174 chapters in 39 episodes
While I was surprised that each episode averages to about 3-4 chapters, i was looking at various posts in subreddits and all of them are of the opinion that the anime is faithful to the manga.
By the way, you are talking about the series that started in 2012, right? There was an OVA series that aired 6 episodes in 1993 and 7 episodes in 2001 covering the third part, Stardust Crusaders. I won't watch it, since the latest adaptation has a lot more episodes and is also received well.
Right. It is all about the cool moments/events though. Like, Erza flashbacks in the Tower of Heaven were pretty cool, Jellal was also an interesting enemy, the owl guy eating Natsu was pretty funny, but that is about it. The Natsu vs Jellal wasn't all that exciting for me because Natsu's fighting style didn't change from previous battles and it wasn't that diverse to begin with. Other arcs were the same, some great moments here and there and lots of time in between ^^'/
Also the magic system in FT is broken. How can you get more powerful at producing fire by eating fire? That's a positive feedback loop, definitely not something that should exist =)
Maybe the anime might have lower concentration of random bath scenes than the manga does : D It's okay though, Mashima's take on fanservice isn't too creepy or distasteful.
I've read synopsis for Edolas, it is a weird arc. It is probably just a setup to have this alternative reality world in the story (or Mashima just ran out of ideas). At least it explains the flying cats =) Of course, all that stuff about having identical copies of people from a [size=small]different[/size][size=small] [/size][size=small]world[/size][size=small] [/size][size=small]gives you an explosive amount of destiny, to a point where you question the existence of free will. One should wonder if any of the characters' previous actions even mattered. If they did, you would think the two worlds would be completely different, a lot more people would be missing their copies and so on. I dunno, that is a thin ice for a story, but [/size][size=small]Mashima[/size][size=small] seems to love that, he steps into every writing pitfall he can xD [/size][size=small]The arc after that one looks promising, I'll read the synopsis for it sometime too.[/size]
I haven't seen Assassination Classroom. Shaurya said it was a normal shonen show but she liked it anyway. Don't know if you have similar tastes though =)
Ah, so the first season adopted 44 and 69 chapters, no wonder it was this packed. The anime is great, the pacing and everything. Yeah, I meant the tv series, not the older OVAs. Those are great too, but they will spoil the plot for you. Also, the OVAs aren't really covering Stardust Crusaders, they are only showing a few selected episodes from it. They only show about a fifth of the story. [size=small]The tv version did a good job with everything, their take on the stories shown in the OVAs is as good or better, so do start with it.[/size]
Right. It is all about the cool moments/events though. Like, Erza flashbacks in the Tower of Heaven were pretty cool, Jellal was also an interesting enemy, the owl guy eating Natsu was pretty funny, but that is about it. The Natsu vs Jellal wasn't all that exciting for me because Natsu's fighting style didn't change from previous battles and it wasn't that diverse to begin with. Other arcs were the same, some great moments here and there and lots of time in between ^^'/
Also the magic system in FT is broken. How can you get more powerful at producing fire by eating fire? That's a positive feedback loop, definitely not something that should exist =)
Maybe the anime might have lower concentration of random bath scenes than the manga does : D It's okay though, Mashima's take on fanservice isn't too creepy or distasteful.
I've read synopsis for Edolas, it is a weird arc. It is probably just a setup to have this alternative reality world in the story (or Mashima just ran out of ideas). At least it explains the flying cats =) Of course, all that stuff about having identical copies of people from a [size=small]different[/size][size=small] [/size][size=small]world[/size][size=small] [/size][size=small]gives you an explosive amount of destiny, to a point where you question the existence of free will. One should wonder if any of the characters' previous actions even mattered. If they did, you would think the two worlds would be completely different, a lot more people would be missing their copies and so on. I dunno, that is a thin ice for a story, but [/size][size=small]Mashima[/size][size=small] seems to love that, he steps into every writing pitfall he can xD [/size][size=small]The arc after that one looks promising, I'll read the synopsis for it sometime too.[/size]
I haven't seen Assassination Classroom. Shaurya said it was a normal shonen show but she liked it anyway. Don't know if you have similar tastes though =)
Ah, so the first season adopted 44 and 69 chapters, no wonder it was this packed. The anime is great, the pacing and everything. Yeah, I meant the tv series, not the older OVAs. Those are great too, but they will spoil the plot for you. Also, the OVAs aren't really covering Stardust Crusaders, they are only showing a few selected episodes from it. They only show about a fifth of the story. [size=small]The tv version did a good job with everything, their take on the stories shown in the OVAs is as good or better, so do start with it.[/size]
That's one of my criticisms of FT. There's no definite set of bench-marks for escalation of power. For example, take the Uchiha's in Naruto: You have the progression in the number of tomoe's in the Sharingan, then the Mangekyo, then the Eternal, then the Rinnegan. And, then even in the Susano'o, each stage awakens as you battle more and more. Whereas in FT, the concept of becoming more powerful is more or less the same as an increase in stamina or magical power capacity. That's what Natsu does. Whenever he's weakened, he basically finds an unexplained way to produce more fire.
The canonical arc after Edolas is the Tenrou Island arc. It's the arc I'm watching right now, and it was pretty interesting in the inital episodes, until the anime decides to talk down to its audience and literally explain stuff whenever it runs into a wall regarding plot. Heck, even Natsu acknowledges the narrator at one point. At that instance, the show is self-aware that its use of a narrator is over-staying its welcome, but, it still doesn't stop that. The other problem is, each arc is essentially a full-blown battle between Fairy Tail and some evil guild, that's extended for a full-length story arc. You don't get a lot of character interaction or development. Like for example, in Naruto, or even in Naruto Shippuden, till the invasion of Pein arc, you get a lot of breathing room between each major battle sequence and don't readily go into the next after the current one is finished. I don't know, it's entertaining, but, really, really mediocre.
Oh. Well, anyway, it's not exactly a priority for me. I'm watching Samurai Champloo with my sister, and I've decided to resume Bleach this weekend. Plus, I have to watch the three shorts that connect the original Blade Runner and its sequel, Blade Runner 2049, that's releasing next weekend. One of them is an anime short done by the director of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo.
I'm definitely gonna check out the recent anime series and not the old OVA one. By the way, have you seen all 113 episodes or just the first season?
That's one of my criticisms of FT. There's no definite set of bench-marks for escalation of power. For example, take the Uchiha's in Naruto: You have the progression in the number of tomoe's in the Sharingan, then the Mangekyo, then the Eternal, then the Rinnegan. And, then even in the Susano'o, each stage awakens as you battle more and more. Whereas in FT, the concept of becoming more powerful is more or less the same as an increase in stamina or magical power capacity. That's what Natsu does. Whenever he's weakened, he basically finds an unexplained way to produce more fire.
The canonical arc after Edolas is the Tenrou Island arc. It's the arc I'm watching right now, and it was pretty interesting in the inital episodes, until the anime decides to talk down to its audience and literally explain stuff whenever it runs into a wall regarding plot. Heck, even Natsu acknowledges the narrator at one point. At that instance, the show is self-aware that its use of a narrator is over-staying its welcome, but, it still doesn't stop that. The other problem is, each arc is essentially a full-blown battle between Fairy Tail and some evil guild, that's extended for a full-length story arc. You don't get a lot of character interaction or development. Like for example, in Naruto, or even in Naruto Shippuden, till the invasion of Pein arc, you get a lot of breathing room between each major battle sequence and don't readily go into the next after the current one is finished. I don't know, it's entertaining, but, really, really mediocre.
Oh. Well, anyway, it's not exactly a priority for me. I'm watching Samurai Champloo with my sister, and I've decided to resume Bleach this weekend. Plus, I have to watch the three shorts that connect the original Blade Runner and its sequel, Blade Runner 2049, that's releasing next weekend. One of them is an anime short done by the director of Cowboy Bebop and Samurai Champloo.
I'm definitely gonna check out the recent anime series and not the old OVA one. By the way, have you seen all 113 episodes or just the first season?
Yeah. And it can be even more subtle, like adding new distinctive skills, kinda how Naruto progressed in the first season. I guess in FT it is all about willpower & desire to save friends, or something along these lines, and not fighting techniques. Your know, power of friendship, the main power in Fairy Tail : D
Oh really? That does sound like something FT would do though =) Yeah I see what you mean. Naruto wasn't the best in this aspect either, but a few characters (Naruto, Shikamaru, Sakura, Sasuke, maybe one or two others), did get some interesting development as a result of after-matches of some of the more dramatic events, and it was kinda cool. I don't feel like that was enough though. Take away [size=small]Shikamaru's story and you'd get just the team 7 having any real dynamics. Not that I can name a lot of other shonen that did a better job =) [/size]
[size=small]How did you find [/size]Samurai Champloo? I heard it was samurai era + hip hop culture, sounds pretty interesting. I've heard about Watanabe doing a Blade Runner animation, sounds amazing ^^b Do you think I can watch it without having seen any other part of the franchise?
I've seen adaptations of Phantom Blood, Battle Tendency, Stardust Crusaders, and parts of [size=small]Diamond is [/size][size=small]Unbreakable, as well as the OVAs. I'll probably watch the rest too, but later on.[/size]
[size=small]Have you seen [/size]Gurren Lagann, btw?
Yeah. And it can be even more subtle, like adding new distinctive skills, kinda how Naruto progressed in the first season. I guess in FT it is all about willpower & desire to save friends, or something along these lines, and not fighting techniques. Your know, power of friendship, the main power in Fairy Tail : D
Oh really? That does sound like something FT would do though =) Yeah I see what you mean. Naruto wasn't the best in this aspect either, but a few characters (Naruto, Shikamaru, Sakura, Sasuke, maybe one or two others), did get some interesting development as a result of after-matches of some of the more dramatic events, and it was kinda cool. I don't feel like that was enough though. Take away [size=small]Shikamaru's story and you'd get just the team 7 having any real dynamics. Not that I can name a lot of other shonen that did a better job =) [/size]
[size=small]How did you find [/size]Samurai Champloo? I heard it was samurai era + hip hop culture, sounds pretty interesting. I've heard about Watanabe doing a Blade Runner animation, sounds amazing ^^b Do you think I can watch it without having seen any other part of the franchise?
I've seen adaptations of Phantom Blood, Battle Tendency, Stardust Crusaders, and parts of [size=small]Diamond is [/size][size=small]Unbreakable, as well as the OVAs. I'll probably watch the rest too, but later on.[/size]
[size=small]Have you seen [/size]Gurren Lagann, btw?
That is indeed the whole point. Somebody messes with the FT guild, and then the guild retaliates. Or, more like the main 4 characters.
I wouldn't expect much from Shounen anime, since it's always so focused on battles, but, I thought Naruto did a pretty good job with those things. And, I think that each battle had a real consequence, both story-wise and character wise, and that's one of the reasons why I found many villains to be memorable. Here, I can barely remember 2, because their actions seem inconsequential.
I watched 3 episodes. The anime is pretty insane. And, yeah, it's Samurai+Hip-hop. It's suitably over-the-top, and really entertaining. The first episode was one of the best I've seen in an anime in recent years. I can't really think of a lot of anime that really gripped me in the first episode. This is certainly one.
There's only one Blade Runner movie. It was released in '82. If at all you are gonna watch it, watch the Final Cut. And, are you talking about the anime short or Blade Runner 2049? I think the anime short takes place between the two movies, so, you probably need to know plot-points from the original to understand it. You could read the wiki if you don't want to. But, reviews of the new film state that you don't exactly need to watch the old one, but, you probably need to know important plot-points.
No. It's on my watch-list, but, it's not a priority, since it's a Mecha anime. And, I know that it's really popular, but, Mecha is a genre that has never been appealing to me. I watched Code Geass because it was really, really popular, and it was recommended to me by a lot of people in NBF as being similar to Death Note. I watched NGE because of its popularity, and its supposed influence in the industry, and Bokurano because we were supposed to watch it that month. You?
Looks like a decent discussion is going on here.
I am cool with bleach ending. The authors are readable in that aspect. They do what everyone expects at least, in the ending.
That is indeed the whole point. Somebody messes with the FT guild, and then the guild retaliates. Or, more like the main 4 characters.
I wouldn't expect much from Shounen anime, since it's always so focused on battles, but, I thought Naruto did a pretty good job with those things. And, I think that each battle had a real consequence, both story-wise and character wise, and that's one of the reasons why I found many villains to be memorable. Here, I can barely remember 2, because their actions seem inconsequential.
I watched 3 episodes. The anime is pretty insane. And, yeah, it's Samurai+Hip-hop. It's suitably over-the-top, and really entertaining. The first episode was one of the best I've seen in an anime in recent years. I can't really think of a lot of anime that really gripped me in the first episode. This is certainly one.
There's only one Blade Runner movie. It was released in '82. If at all you are gonna watch it, watch the Final Cut. And, are you talking about the anime short or Blade Runner 2049? I think the anime short takes place between the two movies, so, you probably need to know plot-points from the original to understand it. You could read the wiki if you don't want to. But, reviews of the new film state that you don't exactly need to watch the old one, but, you probably need to know important plot-points.
No. It's on my watch-list, but, it's not a priority, since it's a Mecha anime. And, I know that it's really popular, but, Mecha is a genre that has never been appealing to me. I watched Code Geass because it was really, really popular, and it was recommended to me by a lot of people in NBF as being similar to Death Note. I watched NGE because of its popularity, and its supposed influence in the industry, and Bokurano because we were supposed to watch it that month. You?
I guess you are right. I'm just salty that most of Naruto's peers haven't changed much since the chunin exam, even though there were so many possibilities :stressed: But you are right, fights had consequences, they were carefully woven into the story, with proper foreshadowing and everything. Kishimoto can write, for sure =)
Nice =) Gonna watch it[size=small] [/size][size=small]too,[/size][size=small] sooner or later! I've seen [/size]Afro Samurai, another anime with a mix of samurai era and modern culture. It was pretty great too. It felt like a successor to Kawajiri's Ninja Scroll, don't know how to name this brand of crazy.
I meant the anime short. I kinda want to see the 1982 movie too, but so far I don't have a lot of luck with live action, can't find time and motivation to watch any =/ I've listened to a detailed review of the movie, with spoilers and everything, not that I remember much from it. I remember general setup and that the movie sounds like something I'd enjoy, that's about it :angel:
That's interesting =) I understand that robots themselves aren't very interesting, they don't appeal to me to much either. But, Code Geass and Evangelion are nothing alike, and the robots don't even play an important role in these stories. I am just interested, what do you think makes them boring (or not appealing enough) for you? Genre tropes, like "a boy who has to pilot the robot to save his land"? Or war themes?
I've seen Gurren Lagann, I think it is a really cool anime. I'd say it is a good watch if you are interested in themes related to freedom fighting, overcoming obstacles and so on. People mistake it for being childish, and for good reasons, ridiculous things happen every 5 minutes, and the anime keeps one upping itself. But it is absolutely intentional, it is both [size=small]intended as a "better version" of similar shonen/mecha shows, playing off popular cliches, and is a carefully written story, where the nonsense characters say and do act as a part of the [/size]narrative. I has been a few years since I've seen it I think, and I only feel stronger about it.
Also, take what I say with a grain of salt xD I am a huge fan of studio Trigger, and they are the people who worked on Gurren Lagann, which shows very plainly in the show's style. And they took the torch from Hideaki Ano, who made Evangelion, and am a fan of him and that anime. [size=small]Ano and [/size][size=small]Evangelion are sort of symbols of otaku culture of the 90s (at least for me) and [/size]Gurren Lagann is the response of the new wave of creative fans. [size=small]This has nothing to do with the show itself, but when I watch that anime it definitely affects my perspective, makes me biased.[/size]
I guess you are right. I'm just salty that most of Naruto's peers haven't changed much since the chunin exam, even though there were so many possibilities :stressed: But you are right, fights had consequences, they were carefully woven into the story, with proper foreshadowing and everything. Kishimoto can write, for sure =)
Nice =) Gonna watch it[size=small] [/size][size=small]too,[/size][size=small] sooner or later! I've seen [/size]Afro Samurai, another anime with a mix of samurai era and modern culture. It was pretty great too. It felt like a successor to Kawajiri's Ninja Scroll, don't know how to name this brand of crazy.
I meant the anime short. I kinda want to see the 1982 movie too, but so far I don't have a lot of luck with live action, can't find time and motivation to watch any =/ I've listened to a detailed review of the movie, with spoilers and everything, not that I remember much from it. I remember general setup and that the movie sounds like something I'd enjoy, that's about it :angel:
That's interesting =) I understand that robots themselves aren't very interesting, they don't appeal to me to much either. But, Code Geass and Evangelion are nothing alike, and the robots don't even play an important role in these stories. I am just interested, what do you think makes them boring (or not appealing enough) for you? Genre tropes, like "a boy who has to pilot the robot to save his land"? Or war themes?
I've seen Gurren Lagann, I think it is a really cool anime. I'd say it is a good watch if you are interested in themes related to freedom fighting, overcoming obstacles and so on. People mistake it for being childish, and for good reasons, ridiculous things happen every 5 minutes, and the anime keeps one upping itself. But it is absolutely intentional, it is both [size=small]intended as a "better version" of similar shonen/mecha shows, playing off popular cliches, and is a carefully written story, where the nonsense characters say and do act as a part of the [/size]narrative. I has been a few years since I've seen it I think, and I only feel stronger about it.
Also, take what I say with a grain of salt xD I am a huge fan of studio Trigger, and they are the people who worked on Gurren Lagann, which shows very plainly in the show's style. And they took the torch from Hideaki Ano, who made Evangelion, and am a fan of him and that anime. [size=small]Ano and [/size][size=small]Evangelion are sort of symbols of otaku culture of the 90s (at least for me) and [/size]Gurren Lagann is the response of the new wave of creative fans. [size=small]This has nothing to do with the show itself, but when I watch that anime it definitely affects my perspective, makes me biased.[/size]
Yes. To that I agree. There was some degree of improvement after the time-skip, but, the growth of Naruto and Sasuke was very high.
Afro Samurai, eh? I looked it up, and it seems like a pretty short anime.
If you read the synopsis, especially about replicants, etc., I'm pretty sure you can understand it. I haven't seen it yet. I'll watch all three shorts before I watch the movie.
I never said NGE and CG were alike. I just mentioned that those two are the only mecha anime I've watched. Plus, I didn't even know that CG was Mecha. On a side note, you know about Code Geass: Lelouche of the Resurrection(3rd season of the series)?
This: "a boy who has to pilot the robot to save his land". Plus, I don't really think there's a lot of potential in making creative fights. It's fun to watch for the first few episodes and after that it gets stale. That sort of happened to me with both Bokurano and NGE. Of course, NGE started to develop an over-arching plot in the second part, so that sort of made it up for me.
I see. I heard the same things about it too. I will certainly watch it, and one of the reasons is what you mentioned: the same studio as NGE.
Didn't Lelouch die in the end of the second season? I wonder what the third season would be about Forgot how to make spoiler tags btw, sorry about that, hope nobody who haven't watched the show sees this ^^'
I see =) There was this show a few years ago, Aldnoah Zero, a "true" mecha (NGE and CG are both deviations from the canon style), and it managed to have very imaginative fights, while respective physics of the robots, so I think it can be done. It would be more restrictive then, say, a fight in a show where people have superpowers, but I thin kit can be interesting even to people who aren't into giant robots =)
Evangelion tv series was like a monster of the week show, with no progress for most of it. Just the way it was written =) I has been a long-long time since I watched it, but I think they wanted to focus on character development and psychology entirely, so the fights were mostly the background. I might be wrong though. Now I really wanna watch it again xD I remember the show was kinda spiraling down in terms of Shinji's psyche. Back then I didn't quite get it, I wonder how I'll see it now.
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Only 5 episodes, could have made it into a movie probably.
Yeah, and even if I don't[size=small] [/size][size=small]100%[/size] get it, I'm sure it would still be entertaining =)
Ah, okay. I thought you found some subtle similarity between these two anime that I missed =) I don't think of Code Geass as of a mecha show, it lucks the essence - the giant robots being the key to victory. In CG they are just tools, as far as I know. I might be wrong though, only seen the beginning of the first season.
Didn't Lelouch die in the end of the second season? I wonder what the third season would be about Forgot how to make spoiler tags btw, sorry about that, hope nobody who haven't watched the show sees this ^^'
I see =) There was this show a few years ago, Aldnoah Zero, a "true" mecha (NGE and CG are both deviations from the canon style), and it managed to have very imaginative fights, while respective physics of the robots, so I think it can be done. It would be more restrictive then, say, a fight in a show where people have superpowers, but I thin kit can be interesting even to people who aren't into giant robots =)
Evangelion tv series was like a monster of the week show, with no progress for most of it. Just the way it was written =) I has been a long-long time since I watched it, but I think they wanted to focus on character development and psychology entirely, so the fights were mostly the background. I might be wrong though. Now I really wanna watch it again xD I remember the show was kinda spiraling down in terms of Shinji's psyche. Back then I didn't quite get it, I wonder how I'll see it now.
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Personally, I think making an anime has a better chance of success. If it's very good and runs for quite some time, due to word-of-mouth, it catches steam and slowly starts becoming popular. I mean, it wasn't possible during Baccano's time, yes, but now with the age of internet, I think it can. Made in Abyss was an example of that. It's not like someone like me is helping of course(don't have any money for streaming anime for now).
I guess. Hopefully.
You are right. The robots are tools. It's mostly 'mind games' between Lelouche and the Britannia empire. My only problem with the series is that it always says 'I've planned 1000 steps ahead', but, doesn't always show what these steps are(1000 is an exaggeration, of course). Whereas with Death Note, you get to know what steps they actually think, and that makes it exciting.
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Yes, he dies. But, they do bring him back. There's a trailer for season 3 and there's one shot of Lelouche at the end. After all, the third season itself is named Lelouche of the Resurrection, so, I guess it's going to play a big part in the series.
I have heard of Aldonoah Zero. It was pretty popular. Folks at NBF(or here?) were talking about it. I just wasn't really interested in it. Maybe I'll check it out one day.
I did like it a lot during the first few episodes. Shinji was a little bit whiny, but I could understand it given his trauma, and Asuka was more tsundere than I could bear. But, sometime later, it started to become a little bit stale. After that, it picked up its plot again and I liked it. And yes, you are right. Not just about Shinji's psyche though. Everyone becomes a psychological mess as the series goes on.
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Personally, I think making an anime has a better chance of success. If it's very good and runs for quite some time, due to word-of-mouth, it catches steam and slowly starts becoming popular. I mean, it wasn't possible during Baccano's time, yes, but now with the age of internet, I think it can. Made in Abyss was an example of that. It's not like someone like me is helping of course(don't have any money for streaming anime for now).
I guess. Hopefully.
You are right. The robots are tools. It's mostly 'mind games' between Lelouche and the Britannia empire. My only problem with the series is that it always says 'I've planned 1000 steps ahead', but, doesn't always show what these steps are(1000 is an exaggeration, of course). Whereas with Death Note, you get to know what steps they actually think, and that makes it exciting.
I've edited your comment to hide spoilers. Hope it's alright.
Yes, he dies. But, they do bring him back. There's a trailer for season 3 and there's one shot of Lelouche at the end. After all, the third season itself is named Lelouche of the Resurrection, so, I guess it's going to play a big part in the series.
I have heard of Aldonoah Zero. It was pretty popular. Folks at NBF(or here?) were talking about it. I just wasn't really interested in it. Maybe I'll check it out one day.
I did like it a lot during the first few episodes. Shinji was a little bit whiny, but I could understand it given his trauma, and Asuka was more tsundere than I could bear. But, sometime later, it started to become a little bit stale. After that, it picked up its plot again and I liked it. And yes, you are right. Not just about Shinji's psyche though. Everyone becomes a psychological mess as the series goes on.
By the way, to use spoiler tags:
[ spoiler ] Spoiler [ / spoiler ]
You mean that 12 episodes long tv anime season would have better chances than 5 episode long one? =) I don't know, there are way too many variables in that equation. Making a one cour season means you have to produce exactly enough material to fit your tv quota, maybe with a +/-1 episode of a leeway. That is super strict, no other anime formats have such tight conditions imposed on them. For a story like Afro Samurai which was written to run for less than 3 hours making it into a tv anime would mean rebuilding the script to increase the length, and I don't feel like that would likely benefit the show. Also, 12 episodes is a ton of work, they might not have had enough money to do this much animation while keeping the quality.
Spreading the word also helps the industry =) I still buy anime and manga very occasionally and use free options on crunchyroll. They aren't bad by the way, free streaming in 480p for every anime except this week's releases. And that is a legal service, they buy the licenses from animation studios.
I see. Thanks for editing it, sorry for the trouble! I tried hiding the spoiler that same way you showed when I was writing that replay, but it didn't work (probably made a typo).
That is a bold move on their part. I haven't seen it, but I suppose Lelouch's death for an important moment, both emotionally and for the plot, so I guess the fans would be pissed if they mess up his resurrection : D I don't mind risky decisions like that, but I hope they know what they are doing. Maybe they would have completely different characters following on with the revolution (CG is about revolution-like struggle, right?), using Lelouch as a symbol, exploiting his image and so on. That would be really cool. If they have new protagonists making a cult for Lelouch, with obsessed followers and everything, destroying his name/image just to achieve their goals, while conflicting with people who actually knew him, I might just reschedule my anime watching and marathon through the first two seasons to see this one =) If they actually revive him it would be kinda weird, but whatever
I haven't finish Aldnoah Zero myself, so can't go around recommending it =)
Oh yeah. Asuka just gives up at the end, doesn't she? That was so weird for me what I first saw it. There is an alternative ending in The End of Evangelion movie. That is one brutal movie, especially if you liked any of the characters in the show. There are quite a few other alternative endings too =)
You mean that 12 episodes long tv anime season would have better chances than 5 episode long one? =) I don't know, there are way too many variables in that equation. Making a one cour season means you have to produce exactly enough material to fit your tv quota, maybe with a +/-1 episode of a leeway. That is super strict, no other anime formats have such tight conditions imposed on them. For a story like Afro Samurai which was written to run for less than 3 hours making it into a tv anime would mean rebuilding the script to increase the length, and I don't feel like that would likely benefit the show. Also, 12 episodes is a ton of work, they might not have had enough money to do this much animation while keeping the quality.
Spreading the word also helps the industry =) I still buy anime and manga very occasionally and use free options on crunchyroll. They aren't bad by the way, free streaming in 480p for every anime except this week's releases. And that is a legal service, they buy the licenses from animation studios.
I see. Thanks for editing it, sorry for the trouble! I tried hiding the spoiler that same way you showed when I was writing that replay, but it didn't work (probably made a typo).
That is a bold move on their part. I haven't seen it, but I suppose Lelouch's death for an important moment, both emotionally and for the plot, so I guess the fans would be pissed if they mess up his resurrection : D I don't mind risky decisions like that, but I hope they know what they are doing. Maybe they would have completely different characters following on with the revolution (CG is about revolution-like struggle, right?), using Lelouch as a symbol, exploiting his image and so on. That would be really cool. If they have new protagonists making a cult for Lelouch, with obsessed followers and everything, destroying his name/image just to achieve their goals, while conflicting with people who actually knew him, I might just reschedule my anime watching and marathon through the first two seasons to see this one =) If they actually revive him it would be kinda weird, but whatever
I haven't finish Aldnoah Zero myself, so can't go around recommending it =)
Oh yeah. Asuka just gives up at the end, doesn't she? That was so weird for me what I first saw it. There is an alternative ending in The End of Evangelion movie. That is one brutal movie, especially if you liked any of the characters in the show. There are quite a few other alternative endings too =)
While, yes, there are some downsides to a 12-cour anime, their success ratio is more(if they are good, obviously). For example, look at Little Witch Academia. Netflix licensed it and employed their model of releasing all episodes at once. They didn't do that properly, and they messed up when they didn't make it available for other territories. And because of that, it's not as popular as it should have been, since it got a lot of hype.
I sort of stream Boruto from time to time, but other than that, I contribute zilch. Maybe a few merchandise, but that doesn't go back to the author. He only gets an upfront licensing fee. I guess I have a few volumes of popular Shounen manga.
His death is the final scene in the anime. Everything else after that is epilogue(which lasts for a few minutes). The build up to that, the music, everything is so well done. That's why it's regarded as a great ending. It's probably my favourite ending ever in an anime.
What you suggested is what I hope would happen, because resurrecting him would negate all the emotional pay-off that was generated at the end of Season 2. Plus, the creators themselves have said that he's said. I think. Have to search to make sure.
Yep. It's like that plot-line got erased suddenly.
By the way, I wanted to watch End Of Evangelion, since the last few episodes were kind of weird and convoluted, plus it was apparent that they ran out of budget. But, the narration at the start seemed to conflict with the sequence of events that take place in the anime, so, I guess I have to watch the first movie again. Plus, is it really an alternate ending? People sort of say it's the actual ending the anime was going for, or something. I want to confirm it with you.
I'm probably gonna make a thread about this, but are you going to watch any Fall 2017 anime? The season has already started.
While, yes, there are some downsides to a 12-cour anime, their success ratio is more(if they are good, obviously). For example, look at Little Witch Academia. Netflix licensed it and employed their model of releasing all episodes at once. They didn't do that properly, and they messed up when they didn't make it available for other territories. And because of that, it's not as popular as it should have been, since it got a lot of hype.
I sort of stream Boruto from time to time, but other than that, I contribute zilch. Maybe a few merchandise, but that doesn't go back to the author. He only gets an upfront licensing fee. I guess I have a few volumes of popular Shounen manga.
His death is the final scene in the anime. Everything else after that is epilogue(which lasts for a few minutes). The build up to that, the music, everything is so well done. That's why it's regarded as a great ending. It's probably my favourite ending ever in an anime.
What you suggested is what I hope would happen, because resurrecting him would negate all the emotional pay-off that was generated at the end of Season 2. Plus, the creators themselves have said that he's said. I think. Have to search to make sure.
Yep. It's like that plot-line got erased suddenly.
By the way, I wanted to watch End Of Evangelion, since the last few episodes were kind of weird and convoluted, plus it was apparent that they ran out of budget. But, the narration at the start seemed to conflict with the sequence of events that take place in the anime, so, I guess I have to watch the first movie again. Plus, is it really an alternate ending? People sort of say it's the actual ending the anime was going for, or something. I want to confirm it with you.
I'm probably gonna make a thread about this, but are you going to watch any Fall 2017 anime? The season has already started.
I don't know if that says a lot about the strengths of the format. The shows that get made into a tv anime are usually either mainstream or very good. But it does help the popularity that the anime is being broadcast, for sure. On the other hand, the only reason Little Witch Academia exists was thanks to the Young Animator Training Project, which produced 30 minutes long movies. I don't think it could have started as a tv series. I know what you mean, that it is good to build a community with weekly releases, I definitely agree. But, that is only a part of the story, the limitations of the tv format are also huge =)
As long as it is a licensed merch, you still contribute =) You don't need to support Oda or Kishimoto directly, they will get their money when the manufacturer will pay for a new licence, and fans buying their merch make the [size=small]manufacturers[/size][size=small] [/size][size=small]more inclined to do so =) It is all good.[/size]
I see. I can imagine how it is. Also, it is just one of the things I want to see in an anime, a character becoming a legend or an idol in a meaningful way. This transition between a person and an idea, the power that people can harness from such a figure, I feel it can be done really well in animation
As far as I know (I watched the tv series and parts of the movie very long time ago) End of Evangelion is an alternative ending to the tv series, it denies some of the plot lines you see in the original show. New movies that are coming out currently do that also, in a different ways. So essentially you have 3 different stories, the tv anime, the tv anime+The End of Evangelion, and the new movies. You saw how tv anime ended. The End of Evangelion is way more brutal and hard to watch. And the new movies are sort of a light version of the story, but more pleasing to watch than the original. Shinji actually does things and care about people, Asuka is being nice to him, Rei acting like a human, that sort of thing =)
So my suggestion is, if you didn't enjoy Shinji's personality and psychological struggles, watch new movies instead and leave The End of Evangelion for later, when you feel ready to be traumatized ^^/
Honestly, I don't. I am going to have a lot more work to do fairly soon, and I wasn't able to make time for anime even before that.
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I don't know if that says a lot about the strengths of the format. The shows that get made into a tv anime are usually either mainstream or very good. But it does help the popularity that the anime is being broadcast, for sure. On the other hand, the only reason Little Witch Academia exists was thanks to the Young Animator Training Project, which produced 30 minutes long movies. I don't think it could have started as a tv series. I know what you mean, that it is good to build a community with weekly releases, I definitely agree. But, that is only a part of the story, the limitations of the tv format are also huge =)
As long as it is a licensed merch, you still contribute =) You don't need to support Oda or Kishimoto directly, they will get their money when the manufacturer will pay for a new licence, and fans buying their merch make the [size=small]manufacturers[/size][size=small] [/size][size=small]more inclined to do so =) It is all good.[/size]
I see. I can imagine how it is. Also, it is just one of the things I want to see in an anime, a character becoming a legend or an idol in a meaningful way. This transition between a person and an idea, the power that people can harness from such a figure, I feel it can be done really well in animation
As far as I know (I watched the tv series and parts of the movie very long time ago) End of Evangelion is an alternative ending to the tv series, it denies some of the plot lines you see in the original show. New movies that are coming out currently do that also, in a different ways. So essentially you have 3 different stories, the tv anime, the tv anime+The End of Evangelion, and the new movies. You saw how tv anime ended. The End of Evangelion is way more brutal and hard to watch. And the new movies are sort of a light version of the story, but more pleasing to watch than the original. Shinji actually does things and care about people, Asuka is being nice to him, Rei acting like a human, that sort of thing =)
So my suggestion is, if you didn't enjoy Shinji's personality and psychological struggles, watch new movies instead and leave The End of Evangelion for later, when you feel ready to be traumatized ^^/
Honestly, I don't. I am going to have a lot more work to do fairly soon, and I wasn't able to make time for anime even before that.
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Not denying that broadcast has its issues. But, IMO, it has a lot of ups as well.
Oh. Anyway, I do hope to buy volumes or DVD's of my favourite anime in the future. Want to support in some way. The main problem here is the availability.
That sort of thing I've seen work only once in movies, in the Dark Knight Trilogy, when Batman sacrifices himself at the end and becomes a symbol. But yea, here, Lelouche himself is not a symbol, actually. He is, in a way, but not the guy himself.
I didn't really have any issues with the anime other than the ending. I'm not really interested in watching the new movies, actually. So, I'll just watch End of Eva.
Oh, cool.
I started Bleach today, watched 3 episodes(110-112). Have to say, while the animation quality is not as good as I remember, it is able to maintain a serious tone when it wants to and doesn't shy away, which is a breath of fresh air from Fairy Tail. Seems like I'm criticising FT too much, even though I actually enjoyed the last arc.
Not denying that broadcast has its issues. But, IMO, it has a lot of ups as well.
Oh. Anyway, I do hope to buy volumes or DVD's of my favourite anime in the future. Want to support in some way. The main problem here is the availability.
That sort of thing I've seen work only once in movies, in the Dark Knight Trilogy, when Batman sacrifices himself at the end and becomes a symbol. But yea, here, Lelouche himself is not a symbol, actually. He is, in a way, but not the guy himself.
I didn't really have any issues with the anime other than the ending. I'm not really interested in watching the new movies, actually. So, I'll just watch End of Eva.
Oh, cool.
I started Bleach today, watched 3 episodes(110-112). Have to say, while the animation quality is not as good as I remember, it is able to maintain a serious tone when it wants to and doesn't shy away, which is a breath of fresh air from Fairy Tail. Seems like I'm criticising FT too much, even though I actually enjoyed the last arc.
Not a lot of good anime vendors in your city? I know how it feels, I bought all the stuff I got while travelling =)
wait, don't tell me Batman dies?.. :O
Okay, I warned you xD
"animation quality is not as good as I remember" is an accurate description of re-watching any long running shonen from your youth : D Bleach is very serious compared to FT, for sure. Wait till you get to Ichigo's big fights, that will be pretty awesome =) I've been listening to Bleach soundtrack recently, brought back some good memories ^^b
That is what always happens with Fairy Tail, you can't not criticize it, even if you honestly like the show =) FT reddit is kinda crazy because of that, with people being both cynical and happy.
Forgot how to make spoiler tags btw, sorry about that, hope nobody who haven't watched the show sees this ^^'