Sindar said:No it is notThe Ryoka invasion is probably my fav arc.
Will one piece can ever become the most popular anime?
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No, I got you, I was just trying to talk about how arbitrary these rules are. Short is a relative term, original seasons of Sailor Moon and Pokemon aren't really that long (46 episodes for Sailor Moon, right?). Of course they got sequels which fueled their popularity; but then we go into this weird territory where we have to draw completely arbitrary lines, trying to exclude shows like Naruto, Pokemon and DB without excluding FMA, JoJo and others. I mean sure, if you compare Death Note to anime with no more than 24 episodes it would have great advantage, but that it feels way too specific =)
I have yet to see a single person who is not interested in anime but has heard of Death Note =) If I was to rank shows (less than or equal to DN in length
By the way, over here Pokemon anime had actually been better known than the game, at least prior to the Pokemon Go which made it into all the news. Doesn't matter though, it is just a super popular franchise; I am fairly confident I can talk to a random stranger in just about any country and they will know the word.
And I really do get what you are saying; the best way to argue against my position is to ask me to provide any kind of anime that would be a fair competitor with Death Note (in terms of length and such) and has a shot at being "more popular". I would have hard time doing so, which proves your position.
Probably because while it is #3 in popularity it is also #2043 in rankings xD Kinda a bad result if you ask me.
I wonder if you would want to watch the adaptation of the last Bleach arc : D It is not bad, but not that great either. There are great moments there for sure, but it is also very long... I dunno. A lot of my fav characters play roles in the arc, a lot of epic defeats for seemingly invincible good guys, not too much of Ichigo (he is great and all, but everything is good in moderation). If they managed to get a great new score for the new arc it would have been cool. I don't think it will ever be animated though.
I'm not being confident about its popularity based on MAL numbers, FYI. I do understand that MAL is a tiny fraction and has become really an inaccurate representation of popularity in recent years. To give an example, according to it, Re Zero was the most popular anime of 2016, but it wasn't, Yuri on Ice and Hero Aca were. Yuri on Ice blew up so much that even Olympic players were talking about it.
I'm talking about my social circle, for example. Almost everyone I know has heard of Death Note. And everyone I don't know has heard of it. And, you know, I've looked at surveys, youtube, etc, and the recent Netflix film bringing it up for discussion again.
And, well, Totoro is popular in USA and Europe, but in most of Asia, Ghibli films didn't exactly get a big release and it's actually surprising to know that someone has heard of Ghibli films.
And, I don't think comparing short anime is arbitrary, there's a reason why Naruto, Bleach and Dragon Ball are as popular as they are. Them being long running is a big factor. And, being consistently good for a good chunk of its period(Naruto for almost all if it for me). Plus, they blew up when everybody had cable, so tons of people were watching it. That's not the case right now, with online entertainment and streaming being the go-to mode of consumption, everybody has retired themselves into a sort of niche.
It also had a track called Yuri On Ice that was used as one of the instrumentals whenever Yuri started skating, and that track was used a few times in the recent Winter Olympics. So, yes, it is legit popular.
It was already in the know, but the adaptation brought it to the fore-front. And, no I disagree. I think it's an amazing show and I think it's a must watch quality wise, but that's a debate for another day. I know at least 50 people in real life who've watched it, and only one person I know has dropped it. Nope, anime as a medium isn't consumed here via TV. Other than Dragon Ball, Shin Chan and Doraemon. And, the latter two probably get insane ratings since there's lot a ton of re-runs for both of them. Pokemon too.
"Cultured" people wouldn't exist if Disney hadn't acquired the distribution rights to his works, though. It's because of Disney that his works are popular in Europe and US.
I'm not warranting that comparison at all.
KuranKaname said:
It's not crap it's average/above average.
I guess maybe because the other sports are too big, and they are already represented in mainstream Hollywood films. The only film involving figure skating I've heard of in recent times is I, Tonyo, which was nominated for a few Oscars(the film has terrible CGI during the figure-skating scenes, though).
No, at least 90% of those people don't watch anime(unless watching DBZ is counted as having watched anime). Yeah, I don't want to prolong this argument. There's no quantified data, and we are arguing on the basis of abstractions, circles and assumptions.
To that yes, I agree. Miyazaki is perhaps the single most famous personality when it comes to anime. But, even in this forum a lot of people don't know about Miyazaki, and these are people who've watched more than a hundred anime(and even one or two of his films).
I forgot to mention this but some track from Sailor Moon was actually played in the recent olympics.
Anyway, I'm not one to talk even if I know a couple of people since I haven't even seen almost all the works of 'famous' people(read Mamoru Oshii, Miyazaki, Satoshi Kon, Hosada, Watanabe).
And, I don't ever feel like watching a Satoshi Kon film even though they are acclaimed because you know, I'm just afraid. Whereas a Miyazaki or a Mamoru Hosoda film seems accessible and family-friendly.
If that's the case then I'll give it a go. I watched a movie called 'Black Swan', which people say is similar to Perfect Blue, and that film was a brilliant psychological thriller too.