Why are Dragonball, Sailor moon, Saint Seiya, Many other anime not counted as big three founder ?

Not that popular. I thought that Dragon Ball is founder of blueprint for battle shonen, it's on another level
Fist of the North Star did it first and was the blueprint for Dragon Ball. Also the design for Joni characters is also heavily inspired by Fist of the North Star.
 
Fist of the North Star did it first and was the blueprint for Dragon Ball. Also the design for Joni characters is also heavily inspired by Fist of the North Star.
I'm not sure about it, Fist of North Star looks like a different style for me. Ken is totally different character from Goku, and i can't see the usual shonen tropes in Fist of North Star if i remember correctly
 
I'm not sure about it, Fist of North Star looks like a different style for me. Ken is totally different character from Goku, and i can't see the usual shonen tropes in Fist of North Star if i remember correctly
Tbh, it’s pretty well documented that Fist of the North Star was heavily influential on Dragon Ball. So regardless of any of our opinions, it was influential to it.
 
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