Finding the correct watch order when it comes to some anime......

I saw the title and I was about to link that page but then I read the thread so yeah that's a pretty great page especially if the watch order is really really big(Legend of the Galactic Heroes) or confusing(Gundam) or contested among fans(Fate).
Also since MAL does the asinine thing of placing everything chronologically(a la Monogatari) this is a better reference.
 
Well it kind of makes sense keeping up with an anime from the very beginning would be easy to keep up with just watch the newest season or what ever. I guess its just confusing since MAL doesn't list in airing order. But I always just watch in airing order now since there really is no reason to watch in any other order because like I said before if you started a series from the start you're not really gonna wait years just to watch it in some slightly better order.
 
Well it kind of makes sense keeping up with an anime from the very beginning would be easy to keep up with just watch the newest season or what ever. I guess its just confusing since MAL doesn't list in airing order. But I always just watch in airing order now since there really is no reason to watch in any other order because like I said before if you started a series from the start you're not really gonna wait years just to watch it in some slightly better order.

There is actually. Quality of a show can improve a lot and make the starting look quite bad.And this is the case with fate stay night. And it's only made more complicated by the fact that there are alternate timelines and prequels coming after sequels. And people who've watched the whole thing can be correct to tell you to skip certain ones and watch in a better order for better viewing experience. I mean I forgot to add index and railgun on the list but that was an anime we went into knowing nothing and ended up dropping because it was "bad" but looking at the guide, we're supposed to watch railgun first which is obviously not release order. I'll be going back to that anime eventually with this knowledge.


Chronological order is something idiotic butted in by source material purists imo. Like asking people to watch Kizu before Bake is the epitome of stupidity, especially since Kizu is a lot more action packed and faster paced so that'll setup wrong expectations for the rest of the series. Even more ridiculous is asking people to watch chunks of episodes in different seasons one after the other to fit the order chronologically. I believe arcs in Monogatari SS take place during various months so I remember these purists asking people to watch Neko: Kuro, Koi, etc at different chunks instead of one after the other. Same with Koyomimonogatari. 
For me broadcast order is always superior.

Monegatari is one thing. It has pretty consistent quality through and release order is easily the best way to watch. But each show is it's own separate beast. You have to take into consideration, quality across the series, viewing experience, will it make sense, would they drop a show if you made people watch some really boring part of the series first. After watching the kara no kyoukai movies 3 times already I have come to the conclusion if you try watching movie 1 first you're gonna have 0 clue about anything they're talking about, why anyone is doing what they're doing, who they are, what the overall plot even is and the point of the whole movie because it's so badly made for a first time viewer and it almost assumes you've read the whole light novel series. That's why I know so many people who've just dropped it after the first movie. Chronological makes the series lose some of it's charm because of the nature of the series but being able to enjoy all the movies without going "wtf is going on" is a good enough reason for me to recommend chronological order for this. Similarly, fate series also had a different issue with a different watch order(s) to remedy it.
Even orders which are not chronological or release, but instead community agreed have a lot of merit if you want to avoid, bad, unnecessary, non cannon stuff or just give you a better viewing example. Look above at the reply I made to risk about the index/railgun series. We went in blind and ended up all dropping it but if we had known a better it could easily have been a fun show to watch. 

I almost always will watch in release order first but during rewatches, I will experiment with chronological and any other order (could even be my own). So yeah I don't think it's idiotic at all.
 
There is actually. Quality of a show can improve a lot and make the starting look quite bad.And this is the case with fate stay night. And it's only made more complicated by the fact that there are alternate timelines and prequels coming after sequels. And people who've watched the whole thing can be correct to tell you to skip certain ones and watch in a better order for better viewing experience. I mean I forgot to add index and railgun on the list but that was an anime we went into knowing nothing and ended up dropping because it was "bad" but looking at the guide, we're supposed to watch railgun first which is obviously not release order. I'll be going back to that anime eventually with this knowledge.



Monegatari is one thing. It has pretty consistent quality through and release order is easily the best way to watch. But each show is it's own separate beast. You have to take into consideration, quality across the series, viewing experience, will it make sense, would they drop a show if you made people watch some really boring part of the series first. After watching the kara no kyoukai movies 3 times already I have come to the conclusion if you try watching movie 1 first you're gonna have 0 clue about anything they're talking about, why anyone is doing what they're doing, who they are, what the overall plot even is and the point of the whole movie because it's so badly made for a first time viewer and it almost assumes you've read the whole light novel series. That's why I know so many people who've just dropped it after the first movie. Chronological makes the series lose some of it's charm because of the nature of the series but being able to enjoy all the movies without going "wtf is going on" is a good enough reason for me to recommend chronological order for this. Similarly, fate series also had a different issue with a different watch order(s) to remedy it.
Even orders which are not chronological or release, but instead community agreed have a lot of merit if you want to avoid, bad, unnecessary, non cannon stuff or just give you a better viewing example. Look above at the reply I made to risk about the index/railgun series. We went in blind and ended up all dropping it but if we had known a better it could easily have been a fun show to watch. 

I almost always will watch in release order first but during rewatches, I will experiment with chronological and any other order (could even be my own). So yeah I don't think it's idiotic at all.



I understand that but it is hard to trust some peoples opinion on how I should watch something and what order, I've had so many people tell me don't watch such and such because its bad and then I loved or or skip this season or this episode because its bad but I'd rather make that judgement for my self. As for index and railgun it is really tricky since I've seen them all. I know they say watch railgun first but then you're not introduced to some of the main characters although they rarely appear in railgun. I do like railgun more but its is more of a slice of life for most of it compared to index which could put some people off if they came here looking for something else. But if I was to go back I'd probably watch railgun first.
 
Risk said:
I understand that but it is hard to trust some peoples opinion on how I should watch something and what order, I've had so many people tell me don't watch such and such because its bad and then I loved or or skip this season or this episode because its bad but I'd rather make that judgement for my self. As for index and railgun it is really tricky since I've seen them all. I know they say watch railgun first but then you're not introduced to some of the main characters although they rarely appear in railgun. I do like railgun more but its is more of a slice of life for most of it compared to index which could put some people off if they came here looking for something else. But if I was to go back I'd probably watch railgun first.


I think making that judgement on who's advice to listen to is on you. There will be plenty of people who will share similar opinions. There's really only a handful of anime that you'd watch that are as convoluted as the ones above so it's not a big deal anyway.
And as long as railgun isn't bad like how mediocre index was, it wouldn't be a big deal.
 
BurnsyCEO said:
I think making that judgement on who's advice to listen to is on you. There will be plenty of people who will share similar opinions. There's really only a handful of anime that you'd watch that are as convoluted as the ones above so it's not a big deal anyway.
And as long as railgun isn't bad like how mediocre index was, it wouldn't be a big deal.

I guess so. Railgun is half slice of life and half about the main character who I think has the most interesting story out of everyone. I hate when people say a show gets good later but I think I started liking index more after watching railgun.
 
Monegatari is one thing. It has pretty consistent quality through and release order is easily the best way to watch. But each show is it's own separate beast. You have to take into consideration, quality across the series, viewing experience, will it make sense, would they drop a show if you made people watch some really boring part of the series first. After watching the kara no kyoukai movies 3 times already I have come to the conclusion if you try watching movie 1 first you're gonna have 0 clue about anything they're talking about, why anyone is doing what they're doing, who they are, what the overall plot even is and the point of the whole movie because it's so badly made for a first time viewer and it almost assumes you've read the whole light novel series. That's why I know so many people who've just dropped it after the first movie. Chronological makes the series lose some of it's charm because of the nature of the series but being able to enjoy all the movies without going "wtf is going on" is a good enough reason for me to recommend chronological order for this. Similarly, fate series also had a different issue with a different watch order(s) to remedy it.
Even orders which are not chronological or release, but instead community agreed have a lot of merit if you want to avoid, bad, unnecessary, non cannon stuff or just give you a better viewing example. Look above at the reply I made to risk about the index/railgun series. We went in blind and ended up all dropping it but if we had known a better it could easily have been a fun show to watch. 

I almost always will watch in release order first but during rewatches, I will experiment with chronological and any other order (could even be my own). So yeah I don't think it's idiotic at all.

I have watched half of the first Garden of Sinners movie and I feel like if I watch it chronologically the mystery element of it will be lost in translation, you know, like figuring out all the pieces of the puzzle by yourself. Sort of like in Monogatari where by the time you reach Owari S2 you sort of get everything.
The only point of contention for me is Haruhi with respect to orders because KyoAni themselves first aired Haruhi S1, and when they aired Haruhi S2 they intermixed episodes in between S2 episodes so as to fit everything chronologically to have a 28 episode broadcast.
Fate is a mess at this point and the only problem is the lack of a good Fate route adaptation. I'll still check it out to see if I like it, I mean it is still popular and I think F/Z's sheer quality has a lot to do with its criticisms.

With Index/Railgun I can't say anything because I didn't start it but yeah I do hear a lot of people talk about Railgun being better(Risk here as well) and a lot people also say that Index's first few arcs are pretty boring.
But, even in Railgun you have people saying there's fillers, etc and ask you to skip episodes but then there are other people who say it's just as good and that there's no point in skipping it.

I agree with you, if at all I rewatch Monogatari(which is unlikely since I don't rewatch anything these days) I'll try the chronological order but for now I think release order is the best.
 
I know the headache, my recent one was Puella Magi Madoka Magica. I learned of the tv show and then there was movies and I was like... what?
 
Risk said:
Yes with railgun half of both seasons are filler but they're still enjoyable enough.


And about Index is it true that only the first few arcs are boring? I mean usually when people people say something gets better it's because they actually liked it in the first place and they never found it boring.
 


Demon_skeith said:
I know the headache, my recent one was Puella Magi Madoka Magica. I learned of the tv show and then there was movies and I was like... what?

Movie 1 and 2 are recaps and 3 is sequel.
 
BurnsyCEO said:



Movie 1 and 2 are recaps and 3 is sequel.



I don't mind if things are fragmented and if they come together at the end but I also don't like it if the fragmented stuff bore me to hell, I also want the means to be enjoyable. Films like Memento or The Sixth Sense for example are good throughout, the novelty/gimmick just make them better. Same thing with Durarara or Baccano.

Yeah I'll definitely be watching Garden of Sinners so yeah sure. Boogiepop though still not sure about it.

No not Fate itself I meant the Fate route. The original F/SN. Every problem arises because people don't like that anime right.
 
MadaraUchiha said:
I don't mind if things are fragmented and if they come together at the end but I also don't like it if the fragmented stuff bore me to hell, I also want the means to be enjoyable. Films like Memento or The Sixth Sense for example are good throughout, the novelty/gimmick just make them better. Same thing with Durarara or Baccano.

Yeah I'll definitely be watching Garden of Sinners so yeah sure. Boogiepop though still not sure about it.

No not Fate itself I meant the Fate route. The original F/SN. Every problem arises because people don't like that anime right.
 
MadaraUchiha said:
And about Index is it true that only the first few arcs are boring? I mean usually when people people say something gets better it's because they actually liked it in the first place and they never found it boring.

They were kinda slow and setting everything up I can get how people got bored. I don't really like saying shows get better because its more of just not being into it at the start. But like most shows the longer you watch the more you get into it so I guess you could say it gets better.
 


I just don't like VN is all. Too much time to be spent and just not that enjoyable. But yeah I'll definitely watch the original maybe when the third movie is out.


Risk said:
They were kinda slow and setting everything up I can get how people got bored. I don't really like saying shows get better because its more of just not being into it at the start. But like most shows the longer you watch the more you get into it so I guess you could say it gets better.


Yeah I don't believe that either but this show's fanbase isn't guilty of saying as much as a fanbase like Gintama who have this as their only argument(or even Black Clover to some extent).
 
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