Edward Elric vs. Harry Potter

alakazam said:
Doesn't that mean that he traveled back in time, not in a different universe?
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In our universe alchemy did not and will not exist in the way it was shown in FMA. So, the answer is no, it was not a time travel =)

MadaraUchiha said:
So, it's not canon?
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I am pretty sure it isn't. I have not read the manga though.
 
Sindar said:
In our universe alchemy did not and will not exist in the way it was shown in FMA. So, the answer is no, it was not a time travel =)


I am pretty sure it isn't. I have not read the manga though.
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I'll check a wiki or something, then.......
 
Saber said:
I do remember that, but he couldn't get back to alfred.
So, he can't exactly switch dimensions at will, sindar.
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Yeah, of course he can't =) But since he did it once and shown that in FMA universe it is conceptually possible, I think between Edward and Harry Ed would have to be the one to move in =)

MadaraUchiha said:
I'll check a wiki or something, then.......
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Since it was at the end of the first season it has got to be something they made up, right? By that time the manga didn't finish yet.
 
Sindar said:
Yeah, of course he can't =) But since he did it once and shown that in FMA universe it is conceptually possible, I think between Edward and Harry Ed would have to be the one to move in =)


Since it was at the end of the first season it has got to be something they made up, right? By that time the manga didn't finish yet.
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Yea, exactly my thoughts......Moreover, I don't remember seeing anything like that in the new version......Heck, I don't even remember seeing 'different universes, in FMA:B.......
 
MadaraUchiha said:
Yea, exactly my thoughts......Moreover, I don't remember seeing anything like that in the new version......Heck, I don't even remember seeing 'different universes, in FMA:B.......
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And that is one of the reasons I hesitate to watch Brotherhood, I really like the first season's ending and I don;t know if I wanna see a different version.
 
Sindar said:
And that is one of the reasons I hesitate to watch Brotherhood, I really like the first season's ending and I don;t know if I wanna see a different version.
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Even though it is the actual, canon version?
 
MadaraUchiha said:
Even though it is the actual, canon version?
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It's an interesting topic =) For one thing, original FMA season is the first FMA to have an ending, manga created another version of the story later. So you can only call Brotherhood canon if you assign this title to whatever the creator of the franchise had written. Chronologically though it is not that clear what is what.

But even regardless of this terminological question, I kinda don't think being canon is necessarily a big deal. Sometimes it is, like with long shonen manga adaptations. But there it is a big deal because the anime version messes up the original story while still being bounded by it. They don't go off and make their own versions of that story, instead they are trying to stay as close to the source material as possible, and they often do it awkwardly. So for those long manga adaptations it is nice to read the original version, so you can see where all of it came from and achieve better understanding of the series. But I can give different examples too.

I've seen movies base on manga, like Metropolis (based on Osamu Tesuka's manga) and Ghost in the Shell (based on Masamune Shirow's manga). Both are great movies, that, in my opinion, far exceed their source material. And I don't think either of the two follow the source material closely (I can say that for sure about Metropolis since I've read the manga). And I don't care, it don't change the fact that those are great movies. The word cannon doesn't even make sense when you talk about them =) I guess even better example would be Bram Stoker's Dracula. It is the original vampire story, it introduced Dracula's character. But you don't need to put it in front of other vampire fiction, even the ones about Dracula. Like would you say that Hellsing isn't cannon, since Alucard is Dracula, and hence belongs to Bram Stoker's world? =)

I'm sorry for making it a long post, tl;dr - the fact that Brotherhood is closer to the manga doesn't affect my feeling towards it. If I ever watch it, it would be because a lot of people praise it.
 
Sindar said:
It's an interesting topic =) For one thing, original FMA season is the first FMA to have an ending, manga created another version of the story later. So you can only call Brotherhood canon if you assign this title to whatever the creator of the franchise had written. Chronologically though it is not that clear what is what.

But even regardless of this terminological question, I kinda don't think being canon is necessarily a big deal. Sometimes it is, like with long shonen manga adaptations. But there it is a big deal because the anime version messes up the original story while still being bounded by it. They don't go off and make their own versions of that story, instead they are trying to stay as close to the source material as possible, and they often do it awkwardly. So for those long manga adaptations it is nice to read the original version, so you can see where all of it came from and achieve better understanding of the series. But I can give different examples too.

I've seen movies base on manga, like Metropolis (based on Osamu Tesuka's manga) and Ghost in the Shell (based on Masamune Shirow's manga). Both are great movies, that, in my opinion, far exceed their source material. And I don't think either of the two follow the source material closely (I can say that for sure about Metropolis since I've read the manga). And I don't care, it don't change the fact that those are great movies. The word cannon doesn't even make sense when you talk about them =) I guess even better example would be Bram Stoker's Dracula. It is the original vampire story, it introduced Dracula's character. But you don't need to put it in front of other vampire fiction, even the ones about Dracula. Like would you say that Hellsing isn't cannon, since Alucard is Dracula, and hence belongs to Bram Stoker's world? =)

I'm sorry for making it a long post, tl;dr - the fact that Brotherhood is closer to the manga doesn't affect my feeling towards it. If I ever watch it, it would be because a lot of people praise it.
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You are correct in saying that there is no point in talking about whether something is canon or not, but, the story always revolves around the original, in opinion.....But, anyway, Harry has more destructive powers than Edward, even if you consider that travelling between Universes thing.......
 
MadaraUchiha said:
You are correct in saying that there is no point in talking about whether something is canon or not, but, the story always revolves around the original, in opinion.....But, anyway, Harry has more destructive powers than Edward, even if you consider that travelling between Universes thing.......
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Yeah I agree, that's why I wrote that passage about shonen adaptations =)

Harry's signature move was that disarming spell, though, and he wouldn't use spells that are actually lethal. In a battle between intelligent and sane people like Harry and Ed the methods they allow themselves to use in battle would be more important than their actual potential capabilities =)

Star_Of_Hope said:
@MadaraUchiha did you see the last part of fullmetal alchemist.
It is really dangerous and it can do damage beyond our imagination.

@Sindar , in your opinion, edwards might win this battle, right? :D
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Both of them might =)
 
Sindar said:
Yeah I agree, that's why I wrote that passage about shonen adaptations =)

Harry's signature move was that disarming spell, though, and he wouldn't use spells that are actually lethal. In a battle between intelligent and sane people like Harry and Ed the methods they allow themselves to use in battle would be more important than their actual potential capabilities =)


Both of them might =)
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That's impossible and you know that too :D
Well, it is hard to compare powers between different worlds.
 
Star_Of_Hope said:
@MadaraUchiha did you see the last part of fullmetal alchemist.
It is really dangerous and it can do damage beyond our imagination.

@Sindar , in your opinion, edwards might win this battle, right? :D
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I haven't seen FMA, so, I have no idea what you are talking about.......

Sindar said:
Yeah I agree, that's why I wrote that passage about shonen adaptations =)

Harry's signature move was that disarming spell, though, and he wouldn't use spells that are actually lethal. In a battle between intelligent and sane people like Harry and Ed the methods they allow themselves to use in battle would be more important than their actual potential capabilities =)


Both of them might =)
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Well, people may resort to certain dangerous things, when they are pushed to a corner......And, yes, it is indeed true that he used 'expelliarmus' against Voldemort in his final battle........
 
Sindar said:
Yeah, of course he can't =) But since he did it once and shown that in FMA universe it is conceptually possible, I think between Edward and Harry Ed would have to be the one to move in =)


Since it was at the end of the first season it has got to be something they made up, right? By that time the manga didn't finish yet.
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To move in, in the sense to win this?
Or to lost it?
 
Saber said:
To move in, in the sense to win this?
Or to lost it?
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No, it is just what I was talking about with Madara. I was saying that if that battle is to take place, you would first need to make sure Harry and Ed has a chance to meet, and the obvious way to make this happen is to transport Ed to Harry's universe. That is what I meant by 'move in' =)
 
Sindar said:
No, it is just what I was talking about with Madara. I was saying that if that battle is to take place, you would first need to make sure Harry and Ed has a chance to meet, and the obvious way to make this happen is to transport Ed to Harry's universe. That is what I meant by 'move in' =)
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Aren't you too quick to escape from a never ending argument sindar?
You know it's impossible in every way.
 
alakazam said:
Doesn't it usually take Edward a longer time to start up the transmutation process than it takes Harry to say a spell? I mean, saying a word (a spell is usually a word or a couple of words) is faster than creating alchemy.
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He makes everything instantly just by putting his hands together.
Do you watch fullmetal alchemist?
 
I am going to win this battle.
I can create everything without a chant just by placing my hands together.
 
Sindar said:
If you take time thinking about how this fight would go, it is actually pretty interesting. Both HP and FMA stories have this "everything has a catch to it" side, and I can totally see this fight ending in a sad way, where no one would be satisfied with the outcome...

Anyway, I think you can imagine either one winning. Thing is, in FMA Edward is a really strong fighter, and he has deep understanding of how alchemy works. Harry on the other hand is rather a normal guy. He is talented, brave, smart, but he never looked like "top fighter". But that said, if Edward and Harry were to meet, it would likely happen in HP universe (since *Spoilers* Edward was shown to be able to travel through universes, and for Harry Potter it wouldn't make any sense to live in FMA world). And I think it would make sense if Edward was in a disadvantage in that situation, cause he knows nothing of how that world operates. Dunno.
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So, even you can't pick one side bro?
xD
may be i should write my own fan-fiction story about this xD
 
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