Do you think more of a protagonist in anime with disability?

[DarkAngel]

i think it makes me have a soft spot for them
if they lack something it induces my mother hen nature lol. what about you?

 

[Rinko]

No I won't.
May be I am not being rational according to other people here but disability alone doesn't give you the right to abuse others which I have witnessed personally.

 

[Elvis]

but disability alone doesn't give you the right to abuse others

It does though. Disabilities make people experience life in an inferior way. They should be entitled to compensate for the inferior way in which they experience life.

 

[MoonlightShadow]

What anime? Battle shonen? Usually disability doesn't matter in battle shonen lol we've seen capable disable fighter in battle shonen

 

[Grungie]

It does though. Disabilities make people experience life in an inferior way. They should be entitled to compensate for the inferior way in which they experience life.

Idk, I don’t think you’re allowed to be a dick and wave it off with “I have a disability!”.

I only wave it off if it’s something related to their disability.

 

[Star_Of_Hope]

I am not so sure.
It depends on the back story and the situation.

 

[Rinko]

It does though. Disabilities make people experience life in an inferior way. They should be entitled to compensate for the inferior way in which they experience life.

It doesn't give them the right to treat others like $hit or guilt trip people who could never do anything.

Idk, I don’t think you’re allowed to be a dick and wave it off with “I have a disability!”.

I only wave it off if it’s something related to their disability.

I expected more people to oppose me but thanks.

 

[Grungie]

I expected more people to oppose me but thanks.

I find it silly to have that mindset. I only find it okay if they have some kind of mental condition as they probably can’t help it. If you’re in say, a wheelchair, that doesn’t give you the okay to be a dick.

I also find it really condescending to see a disabled person and automatically think they have a shitty, “inferior”, or unhappy life.

 

[Elvis]

It doesn't give them the right to treat others like $hit or guilt trip people who could never do anything.

You have two people: one who is homeless and hardly gets anything to eat everyday, and another one who is rich and eats 3 meals a day and all the snacks he wants.

A restaurant is giving out free hamburgers as part of a promotional campaign. Who do you think should have the right to eat more free hamburgers: the first or the second person?

 

[Grungie]

You have two people: one who is homeless and hardly gets anything to eat everyday, and another one who is rich and eats 3 meals a day and all the snacks he wants.

A restaurant is giving out free hamburgers as part of a promotional campaign. Who do you think should have the right to eat more free hamburgers: the first or the second person?

That’s a useless analogy for the situation you presented earlier.

 

[MoonlightShadow]

You have two people: one who is homeless and hardly gets anything to eat everyday, and another one who is rich and eats 3 meals a day and all the snacks he wants.

A restaurant is giving out free hamburgers as part of a promotional campaign. Who do you think should have the right to eat more free hamburgers: the first or the second person?

The rich guy because the poor guy can't afford to buy it after the promotion ends

 

[Grungie]

I would also add that it's pretty dehumanizing to be judging people entirely off of their class/wealth status.

There's more to a person than just their wealth or lack thereof.

 

[Rinko]

You have two people: one who is homeless and hardly gets anything to eat everyday, and another one who is rich and eats 3 meals a day and all the snacks he wants.

A restaurant is giving out free hamburgers as part of a promotional campaign. Who do you think should have the right to eat more free hamburgers: the first or the second person?

It depends on the circumstances as well. What if the so called rich guy got trapped in a room by accident and now he might die if he couldn't get food in an hour? Would you still ignore him and hand the food to the other guy just because he is not well off?
The disadvantage should not be used to insult others. That's my only concern.

 

[Rinko]

I find it silly to have that mindset. I only find it okay if they have some kind of mental condition as they probably can’t help it. If you’re in say, a wheelchair, that doesn’t give you the okay to be a dick.

I also find it really condescending to see a disabled person and automatically think they have a shitty, “inferior”, or unhappy life.

If it's a psychological condition and they couldn't help it, yes being a d1ck to others can be ignored. Some people deliberately use it to get things done their way, which is just not how it should work

 

[Grungie]

If it's a psychological condition and they couldn't help it, yes being a d1ck to others can be ignored. Some people deliberately use it to get things done their way, which is just not how it should work

That’s because there’s enough people to fall for it, which is why they do it.

The problem I have with the mindset Elvis is promoting, is that people are judging people entirely off of physical attributes (IE race, disability, homeless). Elvis isn’t the only person promoting it, as it’s a fairly popular ideology, but I can’t stand it.

I judge people on a meritocracy and on your personality/how you act. I don’t immediately go “aw how sad, a homeless guy came in, here’s free food”. If he came in and looked troubled and was nice about it, cool, free food. If he came in like a Karen, drunk as a skunk, and asked for food. Fuck him.

 

[DarkAngel]

That’s because there’s enough people to fall for it, which is why they do it.

The problem I have with the mindset Elvis is promoting, is that people are judging people entirely off of physical attributes (IE race, disability, homeless). Elvis isn’t the only person promoting it, as it’s a fairly popular ideology, but I can’t stand it.

I judge people on a meritocracy and on your personality/how you act. I don’t immediately go “aw how sad, a homeless guy came in, here’s free food”. If he came in and looked troubled and was nice about it, cool, free food. If he came in like a Karen, drunk as a skunk, and asked for food. Fuck him.

lol some claim they drink to escape the problems and keep warm.
but you are right.

 

[Elvis]

That’s a useless analogy for the situation you presented earlier.

Prove it.

It depends on the circumstances as well. What if the so called rich guy got trapped in a room by accident and now he might die if he couldn't get food in an hour? Would you still ignore him and hand the food to the other guy just because he is not well off?
The disadvantage should not be used to insult others. That's my only concern.

The disadvantage should give one rights to behave in a way that compensates for the inferior way in which one experiences life. Of course, laws should be enforced, so that no one can harm someone else.

If the rich guy got trapped in the situation you described, then he becomes the disadvantaged one, and the right of compensating is transferred to him.

 

[Elvis]

I judge people on a meritocracy and on your personality/how you act.

Personality and behavior are not formed in a vacuum. They are strongly shaped by past experiences, and when most of your past experiences are negative, it's impossible to choose to have a positive outlook on life. Sure, there are exceptions, of course, because the human brain differs from one person to another. The same type of traumas that some people have easily managed to get over have led others to suicide.

People who judge others on their personality while disregarding the experiences that have shaped those people are simply ignoring reality. Neuroscience shows that we are shaped by our past.

 

[Grungie]

Prove it.

We were talking about whether a handicapped person is allowed to be a dick, and you jump to whether we would give free food to a homeless vs rich person.

Personality and behavior are not formed in a vacuum. They are strongly shaped by past experiences, and when most of your past experiences are negative, it's impossible to choose to have a positive outlook on life. Sure, there are exceptions, of course, because the human brain differs from one person to another. The same type of traumas that some people have easily managed to get over have led others to suicide.

People who judge others on their personality while disregarding the experiences that have shaped those people are simply ignoring reality. Neuroscience shows that we are shaped by our past.

That doesn’t mean I should wave off someone who’s an asshole, or give freebies to someone that’s an asshole, just because they have a sob story.

If you keep acting like a dick and realize it isn’t getting you what you want, eventually you should pick up on the fact that it isn’t working.

We talk about neuroscience and people’s past, there are people who become ducks because they find out it benefits them in a way. So if I become homeless and I walk in your restaurant and act like a massive asshole, and it gets me free food from you because you’re a doormat, you bet I’m going to continue doing it. I got my free food. Though if I go in and realize you no longer offer me free food because I’m acting like an asshole, but the nice homeless guy got free food, then I’ll have to change my tactic to be nice.

 

[DarkAngel]

Personality and behavior are not formed in a vacuum. They are strongly shaped by past experiences, and when most of your past experiences are negative, it's impossible to choose to have a positive outlook on life. Sure, there are exceptions, of course, because the human brain differs from one person to another. The same type of traumas that some people have easily managed to get over have led others to suicide.

People who judge others on their personality while disregarding the experiences that have shaped those people are simply ignoring reality. Neuroscience shows that we are shaped by our past.

elv, i understand you are a kind soul but remember people are not all good.
rich and poor doesn't derive the personality. grung got a point there. if the poor/disabled people think they got the god given right to be a$$holes to others, it's not fair.