Anime protagonist Vs anime Antagonist

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the anime protagonist will sacrifice you for the world
anime antagonist will sacrifice the world for you
 
DarkAngel said:
the anime protagonist will sacrifice you for the world
anime antagonist will sacrifice the world for you
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Funny. I feel like usually the motivations are switched where a person sacrificing lives for a greater good is seen as a Villain from the Point of View o the show. And the protagonist that goes through the hard decision between saving a person and dooming the world because the focus shift revealing the true evil being who put them through that decision in the first place.

And I don't know, I was talking to today with my family about the trolley dilemma. The rational/mathematical solution. Five lives versus one live. Save more lives: pull the lever; versus the ethical solution. Every life is as important and who are you to play God and choose the fate; versus the actual allegory that at the end of the day it is all trauma that follow for life and you'll feel guilt regardless if you pull the lever or not simply because of being aware of its existence and whatever you chose to do or not to do...

So I guess it is a matter of what do we value more? someone sacrificing us to know the world goes on or someone that loves us so deeply that they are willing doom the world for our sake.

I don't know why but this thread is making me think so much of X-1999. Fuuma and Kamui as potential Protagonist or antagonist.
Showing my age, I know. I know I saw it with my high school mates but it was CLAMP, so it was an overcomplicated mess I can't remember the details.
 
Kaynil said:
Funny. I feel like usually the motivations are switched where a person sacrificing lives for a greater good is seen as a Villain from the Point of View o the show. And the protagonist that goes through the hard decision between saving a person and dooming the world because the focus shift revealing the true evil being who put them through that decision in the first place.

And I don't know, I was talking to today with my family about the trolley dilemma. The rational/mathematical solution. Five lives versus one live. Save more lives: pull the lever; versus the ethical solution. Every life is as important and who are you to play God and choose the fate; versus the actual allegory that at the end of the day it is all trauma that follow for life and you'll feel guilt regardless if you pull the lever or not simply because of being aware of its existence and whatever you chose to do or not to do...

So I guess it is a matter of what do we value more? someone sacrificing us to know the world goes on or someone that loves us so deeply that they are willing doom the world for our sake.

I don't know why but this thread is making me think so much of X-1999. Fuuma and Kamui as potential Protagonist or antagonist.
Showing my age, I know. I know I saw it with my high school mates but it was CLAMP, so it was an overcomplicated mess I can't remember the details.
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Talk about X.. Sorata sacrifice to his crush (i forgot her name) is sad, and i like that military guy from Earth Dragons (forgot his name too lol), his stance againts Fuuma to intimidate him when Fuuma want to attack that cheerful girl from Heaven Dragon is damn cool. Subaru is also have interesting back story. I think i need to rewatch this series
 
Kaynil said:
Funny. I feel like usually the motivations are switched where a person sacrificing lives for a greater good is seen as a Villain from the Point of View o the show. And the protagonist that goes through the hard decision between saving a person and dooming the world because the focus shift revealing the true evil being who put them through that decision in the first place.

And I don't know, I was talking to today with my family about the trolley dilemma. The rational/mathematical solution. Five lives versus one live. Save more lives: pull the lever; versus the ethical solution. Every life is as important and who are you to play God and choose the fate; versus the actual allegory that at the end of the day it is all trauma that follow for life and you'll feel guilt regardless if you pull the lever or not simply because of being aware of its existence and whatever you chose to do or not to do...

So I guess it is a matter of what do we value more? someone sacrificing us to know the world goes on or someone that loves us so deeply that they are willing doom the world for our sake.

I don't know why but this thread is making me think so much of X-1999. Fuuma and Kamui as potential Protagonist or antagonist.
Showing my age, I know. I know I saw it with my high school mates but it was CLAMP, so it was an overcomplicated mess I can't remember the details.
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that's true kaynil
and it's really fun to see people trying to get the answer by battling their inner thoguhts.
if it's you what would you do? will you protect your loved one or the world?
 
I would pick the antagonist anytime if he/she can sacrifice the world for me.
That's just how much they care for us. Isn't that enough?
 
MoonlightShadow said:
Talk about X.. Sorata sacrifice to his crush (i forgot her name) is sad, and i like that military guy from Earth Dragons (forgot his name too lol), his stance againts Fuuma to intimidate him when Fuuma want to attack that cheerful girl from Heaven Dragon is damn cool. Subaru is also have interesting back story. I think i need to rewatch this series
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I don't remember much about X-1999 but I know that Sorata arc really got to me. And... oh, gosh! Subaru was the reason I got interested in the other anime they were from but I don't think I ever watched it completely. Tokyo Babylon, I think? I think it was a friend who filled me up on their backstory.
 
Kaynil said:
I don't remember much about X-1999 but I know that Sorata arc really got to me. And... oh, gosh! Subaru was the reason I got interested in the other anime they were from but I don't think I ever watched it completely. Tokyo Babylon, I think? I think it was a friend who filled me up on their backstory.
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Maybe it will be a good idea to group watch X for next month
 
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