Contemplating migrating to XenForo

Senkusha

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Today, has been a day of heavy research. And what sparked it was reading a post somewhere about how a forum's look could deter new memberships, specifically, an obsolete, old looking skin gives the impression that a site is not being properly maintained. Despite my efforts of finding themes (SMF skins) that are different from the default look, the fact remains that SMF is very looking very dated. While it's true the development team is working on a 3.0 version, they mention that the bulk of the work being done will be under the hood, so nothing cosmetically will really change.

I've glanced around at all the various forums I frequent, and most of them use XenForo. I've gotten used to how the software functions, I enjoy its clean, sleek and modern functionality. And then I looked at the XenForo source forum itself. The extensions that can be added are quite impressive, costly, but impressive nonetheless! But I have a major issue. SMF and the majority of its extensions and themes are free. Perfect for a small hobbyist like myself. But if I want to attract new active members to my forum, then I need to perform major reconstructive surgery and just take the plunge. But nearly $200 is quite a bit of money to be asking for, especially while I'm having financial difficulties paying my electric bill.

So I need some ideas on how I can generate the $200 I need to purchase a license. It would be nice if I could just go ahead with the purchase now, and begin remaking my site, probably from scratch, but I guess I'll just have to use Obsidian to organize my thoughts for now.

In fact, if I'm starting back at square one, maybe I should consider a pivot. Instead of hosting a discussion forum on role playing systems and classic anime titles, maybe I should just make a my space for dedicated anime-related role playing games. Like forum role playing still seems to be a thing (at least somewhat based on all the directories on the Net), but I'm thinking about hosting multiple, expansive games all running concurrently. But, to truly get my new forum up off the ground and running so I'm not shouting into the Void (like I am right now), I'm going to need to find some people who role play, and more specifically, interested in role playing as anime characters or within anime settings (think exaggeration). Hmm, I'll have to brainstorm a list of possible festering grounds for that. LOL

Okay. I think I'm done rambling now. Anyway, got any ideas?
 
Ermmm... To be honest, I kinda regret it.
We used to run using mybb with a premium skin. The cost was 0 as that's a free software.
Now, the cost is too much and small forums don't really generate any revenue.. Then there is the domain cost and the hosting cost.
As for generating the money...I don't have any ideas ;_;
Sorry kiddo. Apart from the regular salary, I don't have any other source of income... So...
 
The XenForo license is only a one time purchase, right? Unless of course, you need additional support after that first year. My hosting and domain is already paid for the year. Is cost the only reason you regret making the transition?
 
The XenForo license is only a one time purchase, right? Unless of course, you need additional support after that first year. My hosting and domain is already paid for the year. Is cost the only reason you regret making the transition?
You will have to renew it annually for regular updates... As a software engineer, it's kinda hard for me to trust an outdated software. ....The renewal cost is a bit too much.
Also, for additional functionalities you will have to spend even more money like gallery and such. However most of the time in mybb, it used to be free ;_;
Mybb did have paid ones but they are kinda fancy and you don't need them on a regular forum.
 
That is something to consider. However, looking at my current site, I don't think I really need any of the fancy stuff. The new site is going to be a simple text based role play forum. I'll want a dice roller, sub-accounts, and maybe a wiki plug in, maybe. I've still got quite a bit of time to decide, since I'm nowhere close to having the money I'll need to purchase the license, if I even decide to go this route. However, it does seem that the more sites I look at, the more I'm noticing XenForo powering them.
 
That is something to consider. However, looking at my current site, I don't think I really need any of the fancy stuff. The new site is going to be a simple text based role play forum. I'll want a dice roller, sub-accounts, and maybe a wiki plug in, maybe. I've still got quite a bit of time to decide, since I'm nowhere close to having the money I'll need to purchase the license, if I even decide to go this route. However, it does seem that the more sites I look at, the more I'm noticing XenForo powering them.
There’s also a directory/showcase add on, which is about $35 a year. I think there’s a wiki add on somewhere on Xenforo. There’s also a media/resources add on that’s included in the software if you’d like to add it to your base license, but that increases the yearly renewal rate. I have both of them with my license. I haven’t found a use for them just yet.

Generally new updates come out every few months, but a major release don’t happen quite frequently.
 
That's the other reason why I'm considering moving. SMF hasn't seen a major update in a long time. There's one coming down the pipe soon, but it could realistically be years before we see it, and it won't change the appearance of the software either. The last time SMF was released was back in June of last year 2023. While that's good from a extension stand point and not having to worry too much about updating everything, waiting too long for a release increases the possibility for vulnerabilities to be found.
 
That's the other reason why I'm considering moving. SMF hasn't seen a major update in a long time. There's one coming down the pipe soon, but it could realistically be years before we see it, and it won't change the appearance of the software either. The last time SMF was released was back in June of last year 2023. While that's good from a extension stand point and not having to worry too much about updating everything, waiting too long for a release increases the possibility for vulnerabilities to be found.
Have you looked into nodebb or discourse as well? These two softwares are open source as well. They're updated more frequently than SMF.



They're both similar to Xenforo, but with more modern like features. I like these softwares as a user, but I haven't ran them as an admin. I'm on a couple of forums that use them though.
 
I personally think the default theme for SMF looks sleek, it's my favorite free forum script but it really does look much cleaner than MyBB's default theme and same with phpBB. Though I agree with Cpvr, you should check out one of the modern platforms he listed! You can integrate your forum into the Fediverse, via Activity Pub and potentially get more members that way if you switch to either NodeBB or Discourse. You will need a VPS to host both though, since you need to install Docker which you can't do on a shared hosting environment. I recommend using Ovhcloud if you don't have a VPS currently, they've got good deals on hosting. I've installed Discourse on a VPS, it's not difficult if you know your way around Linux to a basic degree. It's really just inputting commands like the old DOS days lol.
 
You can look around sites like Forum Promotion and see if someone is selling a license at cheaper cost, but you still will have hosting costs every month, so you will need to have a real life job to pour money into it.
 
I've already got a hosting service that I'm paying an annual fee for. I looked at the license extensions, $60 more per year isn't that bad. It's just the initial cost that's prohibitive.
 
I don't understand what the whole thing with the Fediverse is all about.


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This shift represents a path for publishers to regain data sovereignty, engage with audiences directly, and reduce reliance on monolithic platforms whose opaque algorithms can significantly impact visibility and business outcomes. As ActivityPub adoption grows, so does the potential audience: the Fediverse is quickly evolving into an open and inclusive digital ecosystem connecting users, communities, and content creators worldwide.
 
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