Blackangel
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why does he want that? he doesn't gain anything by defeating them and they don't all have ponyglyphs like big mom.
i don't get why he wants to even defeat shanks
i don't get why he wants to even defeat shanks
MadaraUchiha said:Alliance with Law and Kaido's connection to Doflamingo. Also because Kaido is ruling Wano now so to help Kinemon and others as well.
Angel said:he wanted to defeat shanks even from before and he got no beef with shanks.
shanks never stood in his way and why does he still want to fight with him?
MadaraUchiha said:To become Pirate King is not just to get One Piece from Raftel but also assert dominance over everyone else.
Angel said:that doesn't look like a good goal anymore.
it's downright like a thugs way of doing things and did oda really want to take that into his story? i don't like it
MadaraUchiha said:It's not like he's a righteous man who's doing service to humanity he's a pirate.
Angel said:a righteous pirate who tried to always do good.
he never once did anything bad to any innocent
MadaraUchiha said:There's no righteous pirate they are outlaws by default.
Angel said:i don't think anyone would say luffy is bad.
everyone likes him because he does good and save people
MadaraUchiha said:Well everything he's done is for his own good it so happens that he saves a lot of other people in the process.
Demon_skeith said:From the sounds of things, White Beard was kind of the same.
MadaraUchiha said:Well everything he's done is for his own good it so happens that he saves a lot of other people in the process.
Angel said:why did he save vivi?
she hasn't promised him anything in return but she rescued her kingdom. why did he save those kids from ceasar? they can't give him much
MadaraUchiha said:I don't remember Alabasta all that much but he destroyed Punk Hazard to get Caesar. I'm not saying he's a bad guy but that wasn't his primary intent.
Angel said:i get it but if he fights shanks, everyone will think less of him
he would dare to show dominance to the person, who saved him by losing his hand?
MadaraUchiha said:He wants to become the Pirate King that's why and Shanks did say they'll fight one day.
Angel said:he is very selfish.
i don't want them to die or get defeated. luffy would win but it loses many things.
MadaraUchiha said:I know I never said Luffy was a saint.
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